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Ah, the irony. --Aelran 04:45, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Uploading PicturesEdit

How would I go about extracting and uploading, say a shipyard picture, for use on the Wiki? -JoshTigerheart 22:14, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Firstly, we need to determine fair use. I'd assume that ATMOS doesn't overly mind. Using the Nova editor of your choice, go through the data files until you've located the desired file. On the Mac, using MC, you can simply open the image, select it, copy it, load Preview, and create a new document. Under Windows, I have no idea, although I'd assume a fairly simple proceedure. When it comes to uploading, however, simply navigate to evn.wikia.com/wiki/Image:filename.extension – this will provide the facility to upload. --Aelran 09:25, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
There's also the "upload file" link in the toolbox on the left, so you don't have to mess with urls. RMF 13:41, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
Don't see how I missed that one... just used to doing things like this by hand, I assume... --Aelran 20:49, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. -JoshTigerheart 00:24, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

I've noticed that some people used the Template:game-screenshot when uploading pics, so I've been using that, but is that the correct thing to do with shipyard and outfitter pics? --Nil'kimas the Human 03:42, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Can I post my own copyrighted work?Edit

Another idea came to me. Belthazar has a guide for plug conversion and such. Could I post my guide as an article with some line at the top stating that it is a guide? Since I am the copyright owner to the guide, I shouldn't have to worry about GNU or anything like that as long as I am the sole person to modify it...right? -JoshTigerheart 00:25, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

The point of the GNU license is that posting it here means you're pretty much saying "hey everyone, you can edit it all you like". You can easily change it back yourself, yes, but you can't post it here and expect to retain copyright. At least, that's the way I see it - but I am not a lawyer, and all that. I posted the plugin conversion guide here because it's simpler than making my own HTML page for it, and I don't mind terribly if people edit it... to a point, in any case. --Belthazar 08:19, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Alright, I'll just write an article about it and then provide links. Otherwise there would be a copyright clash with the current one and the GNU if I were to post it. -JoshTigerheart 21:21, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Should there be articles on the Nova community?Edit

I'm asking alot of questions, eh? Anyways, I decided to ask before I started adding articles. Should we add articles about the Nova community, such as about the Nova boards, the addons page, EVNova.net, and the dev boards? -JoshTigerheart 20:20, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Don't see why not. Since we've got articles about things like ATMOS, it seems fine to me. --Mispeled 18:47, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Wanted PagesEdit

We really have way too many entries into the Wanter Pages. We need to go through and try to clean-up all the messed up links. I mean, we'll have an article on the Manta and there will be a link to "Manta Fighter" or "Polaris Manta". I've started working on it...but sheesh, its alot. And some of the links are unnessisary, such as A.D. 980 and Mac OSX. I say we focus on getting the wanted links to a much smaller list. In the end, we'll have more articles and a much nicer and cleaner looking Wiki. Wanted pages can be found here. -JoshTigerheart 17:15, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

How does one determine which pages are linking to a wanted page? I ask because I noticed three links to "freighters", which exists already. I'd like to go clean up those links if I can figure out where they are. Ottopia 15:45, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Dang! I answered my own question. I hate that! FYI, just do what any reasonably intelligent person would do: clink on the text that says "3 links". Ottopia 15:48, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

LinksEdit

A little note to everyone on link format. The Wikipedia/Wikia software automatically capitalises the first letter of any link, but does nothing to any letters after that - and furthermore, case is important in Wikilinks. For example, were I to type [[freighter]], I would be sent to a page named "Freighter", but if I type [[EMP torp]] then I would not be sent to "EMP Torp" but to "EMP torp", which is a different page. Due to this automatic capitalisation, piped links such as [[Freighter|freighter]] are not neccesary, but if you want the words "escape velocity" to be a link to the "Escape Velocity" page, you will need a piped link (or a redirect, but piped links are preferable).

Regarding plurals, Wikipedia automatically recognises letters placed after a link as being part of the same link. That is to say, the link [[leviathan]]s would appear as leviathans, but would still send you to the Leviathan page (with no s). The same goes for other suffixes like -es, -ed and -ing. (The exception is when an apostrophe is used - 's is not recognised.) Basically, piped links are again not required - [[freighter]]s and [[Freighter|freighters]] both have exactly the same effect, but the former is much easier to read, and requires half the typing.

A good page for info on this is the Wikipedia Editing Help page.

--Belthazar 08:19, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

DuplicatesEdit

Is there a preferred procedure for dealing with duplicate pages? For example, I noticed today that we have a page called "Nilkimas" and one called "Nil'kimas," which have identical content. What ought one to do? --Ottopia 22:36, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

The Nilkimas page has no content - it's simply a redirect page. If you click on the link, you'll notice you get sent straight to the Nil'kimas page, with a note at the top saying "(Redirected from Nilkimas)" --Belthazar 23:24, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

I give up... Edit

Theres too much editing going on for my amount of free time and the slowness of the campus internet for me to keep up with all the edits being made. I think I'll just worry about the few articles I care about for the time being, since I don't have time to make articles or do major editing. JoshTigerheart 20:12, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Deleting pages Edit

There are several pages (such as Nilk'emorya Jammer) that are blank because their titles were misspelled and the text from the page was copied and moved, rather than moving the page. Is there a way to delete pages like these (or mark them for deletion), or should they redirect to the correctly spelled page? --Nil'kimas the Human 03:15, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Featured Ships/weapons Edit

About how often should the featured ship and featured weapon be changed? It looks like in the past they have been changed about once a month, but would once a week (or every two weeks) be better? They start to stagnate a little bit when they're up for so long. --Nil'kimas the Human 02:08, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Ammo and Launcher articles Edit

Is there really a need for launchers and ammunition to have seperate articles? I don't see much point, since they both kinda say the same thing. I believe they should be merged together with the launchers redirecting to the ammo, or vice versa. Anyone else agree or disagree? -JoshTigerheart 18:44, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree that they should be merged, but it makes more sense to me if the ammo redirects to the launcher, since that's closer to how the resources work in the game itself (the launcher oütf links to the actual wëap resource; the ammo oütf is simply used by the wëap when it is fired), and because the launcher is the main part of the weapon. It's also closer to how existing articles work for non-missile weapons (e.g. there's an article for the Fusion Pulse Cannnon, but not for the fusion pulses themselves). --Nil'kimas the Human 17:21, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Originality Edit

What exactly are the guidelines for the content of articles in regards to the sources of information? Should everything be in the authors' own words? On the Community Portal Page it says "Do not submit copyrighted content (i.e. don't copy straight from the game)," and yet most, if not all, articles on ships, outfits, etc. have the EVN text in them. Should this text be removed/replaced with more original text? Should users stop putting EVN text in articles altogether? -Starbridge21 19:02, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

If you see any pages that are using text taken directly from Nova or other non-original sources, please rewrite it. JoshTigerheart 21:56, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Deletion Templates Edit

We need the deletion templates to work. Specifically speedy delete (and proposed deletion. Can anyone make them? I'm no good with templates.

{{delete}} {{proposed deletion}} {{proposed deletion because|reason}}.

-user:JoshTigerheart

Featured Wikia Edit

I'm thinking about nominating this Wikia for Featured Wikia, as you can see on the left toolbar. Is there any objections to this? And those of you who agree, any ideas of a short blurb to include? An example of a blurb is like this...

"The Star Wars Wikia, known as Wookieepedia, is an online encyclopedia devoted to collecting information from the Star Wars films, novels, comics, video games, animated series, and more.

The site launched in March 2005 and has grown to over 42,000 articles and includes versions in many other languages.

The Star Wars Wikia has a massive community and several community projects, including the Improvement drive, and the Wookieepedian of the Month. Both film and expanded universe information is welcome, and articles are generally written from an "in-universe" point-of-view."

Please voice any opinions you may have. -JoshTigerheart 04:12, 27 June 2007 (UTC)


I think that's a good idea. For a blurb, how about something like this:
"The Escape Velocity Nova Wikia was created in early 2006 with the goal of becoming the ultimate collection of knowledge about Ambrosia Software's hit computer game Escape Velocity Nova, as well as including some information about the original Escape Velocity and EV Override, the first two games in the series.
The wiki has grown to include detailed articles about the story, factions, ships, weapons, etc., most of which are written from a "in-universe" point of view.
The EVN Wikia also contains information about the EV Nova community, including mods, editors, tutorials, and info about other EVN-related websites."
Anyone, feel free to change the blurb however you like or add stuff to it. --Nil'kimas the Human 22:26, 2 July 2007 (UTC)


Projects Edit


Written Policy Edit

We are in desperate need of having some actual policy written down. Right now, nobody's actions are backed by anything hard, just precedent, common sense, and "this is how we've always done it". I am going to suggest that we copy Wikipedia policy and modify it for our own needs here, as how this Wiki is ran isn't too dissimiliar to Wikipedia's own guidelines. JoshTigerheart 22:17, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Basing our policies on Wikipedia's is by no means a bad idea; however, I'm opposed to a direct copy-paste. Wikipedia policy is exhaustive (some would say bloated) and tries to prepare for every contingency. This is fine for an encyclopedia with thousands of users and millions of articles but not very suitable for a wiki such as this. I think an adaption of Wikipedia's policy is fine, but in a much more concise form (starting with just one page, possibly expanding later). Thoughts? RMF 23:12, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
I agree that a written policy that starts simple and grows as needs dictate is a good idea. Wikipedia is not a bad starting point, but it shouldn't just be a direct copy. It also needs to be flexible to respond to things as they arise. Joshbaumgartner 19:38, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I did mention that direct copy and paste wasn't part of my suggestion, as I stated about modifying it. I was thinking of a few pages (4 max), one with general policy and the other (up to) three having a few more specific parts. A few things I was considering copying and modifying to an extent in specific were WP:NOTABLE, WP:NOT, and WP:IAR. JoshTigerheart 04:52, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

I've been busy, hence why there is no policy up yet. I haven't forgotten about it and I'll get on it when I have the chance. Real Life™ has kept me busy. JoshTigerheart 01:02, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Community portal overhaul Edit

I have given the portal an overhaul with extra links (taken from the latest Wikia starting template), whilst merging in the content from the original portal. Hopefully this should make it even more useful for contributors! Kirkburn (talk) 16:32, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

New skin Edit

Hi guys,

Several months ago, Wikia released a new site skin called Monaco which replaces the existing skin (Quartz). The new skin features tools which make it much easier for visitors to find content and edit it. You can read about the new skin here. While you will still be able to select Quartz as the skin you personally used to view the site (via Special:Preferences), we are no longer supporting Quartz as a default skin for anonymous visitors. This wiki still uses Quartz, so we need to change it to Monaco. There is a similar theme in Monaco; check out how the homepage would look in Monaco here.

Take a look at it, and let me know if you have any questions. You can learn about customizing the menus and other aspects of Monaco here.

Thanks! --KyleH@fandom (talk) 21:12, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Monaco looks fine to me. I personally have been using Monobook since Quartz sticking all the navigation on the right side of the page really got on my nerves. I'm not sure how to go about changing it though. If it requires bureaucrat rights, then we could be pretty stuck. None of the users with bureaucrat have been active for at least over a year. JoshTigerheart 17:18, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
I went ahead and changed it for you. For future references, you can change the default wiki skin changing the box at the bottom of the Skin tab of your preferences. Also, because the other bureaucrats have been inactive, I went ahead and promoted you to bureaucrat as well. Would you like any help customizing the sidebar menus or anything of that nature? --KyleH@fandom (talk) 18:02, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. I think I can figure out the customizing using the link you provided above. If I need any help, I'll send you a message. JoshTigerheart 00:06, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Mission strings/storylines Edit

It seems weird to me that there are no articles on the various mission strings (storylines), major and minor, not even a category for such articles, when that's probably in the top three most-sought types of EV game information (after "where can I find/how do I get X", and "what are the combat stats for X"). Knowing how to start (and avoid starting!) each mission string, what pitfalls to avoid (some of the "die" if you fail or abort a mission, and your game is basically over), which ones connect and how, which are mutually exclusive, etc., would all be very useful. SMcCandlish 07:40, April 3, 2012 (UTC)

I did finally find Mission string (which is capitalized in sentence case unlike pretty much everything else here, so I made redirects to it from other obvious terms and capitlaizations like Mission String, Strings, Thread, Mission threads, Storylines, etc., etc. It's pretty rudimentary. The link to the walkthrough site was nice, but who knows how long that will exist? Wikia is probably a more stable home for that kind of info. SMcCandlish 09:20, April 3, 2012 (UTC)

Jammers - cumulative? Edit

Has anyone ever figured out whether the jammers are cumulative (e.g. are you better off with a pirate jammer, or with a pirate jammer AND the civiliian jammers AND the cheap military jammers AND... The stats for them are just numeric and, it's kind of implied that they'll be cumulative since you can keep installing them and blowing mass on them that could be used on weapons and armor. Other things like this clearly are cumulative, like having a reactor and solar panels, or having carbon fiber and matrix steel. But I'm not sure how to really test this without being a level-editor type who studies the resource files and such. SMcCandlish 08:46, April 3, 2012 (UTC)

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